tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post6017484424198980294..comments2023-05-06T02:39:25.916-07:00Comments on Debating the Anthrax Attacks of 2001: May 6, - May 12, 2012 DiscussionsEd Lakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-89015451088986001302012-05-10T10:17:58.514-07:002012-05-10T10:17:58.514-07:00Anonymous wrote: "You don't even read the...Anonymous wrote: <i>"You don't even read the Amerithrax articles as they come down!"</i><br /><br />Now you're just being silly. In case it's slipped your mind, I have a web site where I not only comment on articles "as they come down," I also provide links to them. My site has <b><i>thousands</i></b> of links and ten years of my comments about the articles.<br /><br />EdEd Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-68089146052548648812012-05-10T09:19:32.590-07:002012-05-10T09:19:32.590-07:00Anonymous wrote: "What the FBI uses is far mo...Anonymous wrote: <i>"What the FBI uses is far more sophisticated that the off-the-shelf software available to you then (or now).</i>"<br /><br />Your ignorance of computers is amazing. Maybe you watch too much TV. If a 0 or 1 (magnetized or not magnetized) bit in any kind of computer file is changed, there is NO WAY to recover what it was before. Period. Therefore, if a file is written over, all the zeros and ones are changed. Recovery is impossible.<br /><br />However, your vast misunderstandings may result from the fact that some files are not actually deleted but are <b>moved</b> into the "Recycle Bin." And you need to then delete them from there when the "Recycle Bin" gets too full. But, once deleted from the "Recycle Bin" they will still be gone forever when they are over-written.<br /><br />On Microsoft computers, pressing the Delete key will just move the file to the "Recycle Bin." But pressing the Delete key AND the Shift key will permanently delete the directory information for the file. And, once the file is written over, no one can recover it. Period.<br /><br />It's not about sophisticated software. It's about <b>physics</b>. A bit contains no memory of what it was before. Therefore it is physically impossible to figure out what it was before by just looking at the bit.<br /><br />EdEd Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-88785274807619192462012-05-10T08:57:22.789-07:002012-05-10T08:57:22.789-07:00Ed,
You don't even read the Amerithrax articl...Ed,<br /><br />You don't even read the Amerithrax articles as they come down!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-6022117663154881222012-05-10T08:56:53.472-07:002012-05-10T08:56:53.472-07:00Ed,
You rely on your experience 15 years ago wit...Ed, <br /><br />You rely on your experience 15 years ago with off-the-shelf software relating to recovery of deleted files.<br /><br />What the FBI uses is far more sophisticated that the off-the-shelf software available to you then (or now).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-81217242537942799862012-05-10T08:29:46.202-07:002012-05-10T08:29:46.202-07:00Anonymous,
Terry Abshire was Dr. Ezzell's mai...Anonymous,<br /><br />Terry Abshire was Dr. Ezzell's main assistant.<br /><br />According to page 78 of the FBI Summary report:<br /><br /><i>"On or before March 28, 2002 – the date the FBIR was officially up and running and had received its first sample, FBIR001 – <b>Dr. Ezzell’s lab technician</b> advised Dr. Ivins and his lab technician that their submissions were not prepared according to the protocol.</i>"<br /><br />EdEd Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-20339532132622365192012-05-10T07:56:40.053-07:002012-05-10T07:56:40.053-07:00Anonymous,
If you want to fantasize that everythi...Anonymous,<br /><br />If you want to fantasize that everything remains on the hard drive until it's "scrubbed" out by taking it to some repair facility, that's up to you.<br /><br />But, you should also check out what "fragmentation" means. I believe you use an Apple computer. I wasn't sure that Apple products work the same way as Microsoft products do when it comes to fragmentation, so I looked it up. Yup. Apple works the same way.<br /><br />Here's a statement from <a href="http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1634" rel="nofollow">Apple Support</a> describing how defragmenting will help your computer to operate faster and <b>WHY</b>: <br /><br /><b>"Fragmentation occurs when files are deleted and created. For example, suppose you create three files, then delete the second one. If you save a fourth file, which is larger than the size of the second file, the Macintosh file system may put a portion of the fourth file in the space occupied by the second file, and put the remainder after the third file. To access the entire file, the system has to look in two places."</b><br /><br />If someone deletes his huge porn collection, <b>some</b> of the files will be written over the next time he saves something, but the rest will remain there until he gradually writes over everything. <br /><br />Your belief that nothing gets written over is <b>PREPOSTEROUS</b>, no matter how may "experts" you misunderstand or misinterpret.<br /><br />EdEd Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-49228454421439523182012-05-10T07:34:33.186-07:002012-05-10T07:34:33.186-07:00Anonymous wrote: "He should not be making fac...Anonymous wrote: <i>"He should not be making factual assertions without a factual basis.<br /><br />When talking about throwing out a sample that was genetically matching to the anthrax that killed 5 people, one should not make the assumption such as he did."</i><br /><br />Very funny. But, you think it's okay for Paul Kemp to make one ridiculous claim or assumption after another? <br /><br />In the videos, Kemp claimed that Ivins delivered one sample to Paul Keim in Arizona and another to the FBI. That's totally preposterous. Kemp claimed that the FBI either broke or threw out their sample, but Keim kept his as a good scientist should. Nonsense.<br /><br /><b>BOTH</b> of the February 2002 slants (<b>along with six other slants</b>) were hand delivered by Pat Fellows to Terry Abshire - probably in building 1412. (Ivins broke chain of custody rules when he had Pat deliver them.)<br /><br />Abshire logged them in, put the <b>FOUR</b> odd-numbered slants into safe storage in the FBIR at USAMRIID and shipped the <b>FOUR</b> even numbered slants to Keim in Arizona. They were the first samples for the FBI Repository and no one was ready to start testing the samples.<br /><br />In April, there were other samples in FBIR, and Abshire or an assistant evidently noticed that Ivins' <b>four</b> slants were obviously not made the same way as the other slants in the FBIR collection. They would have looked like apples in a basket of oranges. So, they asked Ivins for replacement slants.<br /><br />Good laboratory procedures would dictate that they would hold onto the original four slants until the replacements arrived. Then, when the four replacements arrived in April, the four odd numbered slants would be put into the FBIR, the four even numbered slants would be sent to Paul Keim, and the <b>FOUR</b> originals from February would be destroyed. <br /><br />Keim had no idea what <b>any</b> of the samples meant. He was doing <b>blind</b> tests. <br /><br />Years later, when someone working with the FBI noticed that there was a discrepancy in the records, and that Keim had copies of the <b>FOUR</b> February samples that USAMRIID no longer had in the FBIR, they asked Keim for the sample taken from flask RMR-1029 by its number. <br /><br />Keim went to the locked cabinet where all the "chain of evidence" samples were kept, and he sent the slant to USAMRIID per their request. He had no idea what it was or what it represented. It was just another numbered sample in his "chain of evidence" locker. <br /><br />So, <b>everyone was doing everything correctly</b>. There was <b>no carelessness</b>, as Kemp implies. The FBIR slants kept at USAMRIID had to all be made the same way, otherwise their evidence could be challenged in court. Keim was doing different kinds of tests that didn't require that everything be made the same way. <br /><br />No one knew in February 2002 that Ivins was the anthrax killer. If they had known, they would had assumed that he was deliberately creating slants that could not be used in court. And they would have used BOTH slants from RMR-1029 as evidence, not just the one that Keim kept.<br /><br />EdEd Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-37163594729112109902012-05-10T06:40:26.741-07:002012-05-10T06:40:26.741-07:00Anonymous wrote: "Ed says he is talking from ...Anonymous wrote: <i>"Ed says he is talking from experience. He says he worked for 20 years in the computer business and describes using off-the-shelf software designed to restore material. I, in turn, am relying on the FBI's computer forensics expert. Ed is mistaken. Attorney Kemp is correct.</i>"<br /><br />Believe what you want to believe. It just proves you don't understand computers any better than you understand science.<br /><br />You're misinterpreting things to make them fit your beliefs --- as usual.<br /><br />EdEd Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-40777585745445609562012-05-09T14:49:45.288-07:002012-05-09T14:49:45.288-07:00Ramzi Binalshibh used "Jenny" as code wi...Ramzi Binalshibh used "Jenny" as code with Atta in communications in August 2001 or so regarding a key hijacker. "Marriage" is Al-Qaeda-speak (code) for event.<br /><br />A planned marriage refers to a planned attack.<br /><br />The letter to the National Enquirer concerned Jenny's planned marriage -- which is the subject of the letter to National Enquirer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-10735505272224337792012-05-09T14:43:59.450-07:002012-05-09T14:43:59.450-07:00Ed Lake offers no support for the timing that the ...Ed Lake offers no support for the timing that the February 2002 sample was discarded. <br /><br />Nor does he offer any support for his claim that it was Terry Abshire who threw it out. Ed merely asks: "Who else would have done it?"<br /><br />He should not be making factual assertions without a factual basis.<br /><br />When talking about throwing out a sample that was genetically matching to the anthrax that killed 5 people, one should not make the assumption such as he did.<br /><br />That would have proved that the Ames that she and JE made a dried powder out of 2001 was genetically identical to what was mailed. It was thrown out by an unidentified FBI scientist when it was collected for evidence in February 2002. The question not yet established by the record is who shot it out, who was consulted etc. Sometimes the documents refer to an "FBI scientist."<br /><br />The person who threw it out and the consultations made need to be established by the GAO. The same applies to the destruction of the anthrax in Ames, Iowa. Dr. Keim says he was not consulted. <br /><br />Then an analysis of any conflict of interest and destruction of evidences issues need to be addressed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-32434306202564780882012-05-09T14:35:52.165-07:002012-05-09T14:35:52.165-07:00Ed says he is talking from experience. He says he...Ed says he is talking from experience. He says he worked for 20 years in the computer business and describes using off-the-shelf software designed to restore material. I, in turn, am relying on the FBI's computer forensics expert. Ed is mistaken. Attorney Kemp is correct. Kemp is a former DOJ prosecutor and very likely regularly consults with computer forensics people in his litigation and defense work given how important the field has come to be in litigation. <br /><br />I am relying on two experts, whose hour long course on the subject is online (and I watched this week).<br /><br />First, Albert Barsocchini is an internationally recognized expert in e-Discovery (patent litigation), international and national privacy and protection, compliance, audit and corporate investigations. He writes and lectures frequently on these topics.<br />Brent Botta <br /><br />Brent Botta is a Senior Computer Forensic Investigator for Guidance Software. Upon achieving a Bachelor of Science degree in Computer Science in 1997, Brent was immediately hired by the Georgia Secretary of State's office as a Special Agent for a Major Fraud and Telemarketing White Collar Crime Unit as a computer forensic investigator. In 1999, Brent was employed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation's CART Team as a full time computer forensic examiner in which he was the forensic lead on more than 100 state and federal search warrants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-78130864006156245522012-05-09T13:50:52.499-07:002012-05-09T13:50:52.499-07:00Richard Rowley wrote: "what does the movie TH...Richard Rowley wrote: "<i>what does the movie THE CELL have to do with Amerithrax/the probability of Ivins' guilt/the price of tea in China?</i>"<br /><br />1. The movie "The Cell" starred Jennifer Lopez and was about a psychiatrist who possessed new technology to enter a person's mind and wander around in there to help solve mental problems.<br /><br />2. The movie "The Cell" came out in 2000 and would have come out on video in early 2001.<br /><br />3. Ivins was looking for a psychiatrist who could help him solve his mental problems.<br /><br />4. Ivins was constantly talking with women about his mental problems, and he would have been very intrigued by a movie where a woman fully understands what's going on in someone's mind.<br /><br />5. Someone sent a letter to Jennifer Lopez just prior to the anthrax attacks c/o the Sun newspaper. A lot of people thought it was the anthrax letter because it contained a powder. But <b>the powder was laundry detergent</b>.<br /><br />6. <b>Ivins once sent laundry detergent to either Mara or Pat Fellows to see if she could figure out who sent it.</b> He signed the letter with the detergent "Laundry Boy."<br /><br />7. Ivins occasionally sent packages to Mara and Pat that contained items that were "codes" and required deciphering the code to figure out who sent the items and what they meant.<br /><br />8. The Jennifer Lopez letter contained detergent and a bunch of mysterious items that needed decoding: a cigar tube, a Jewish star pendant, etc.<br /><br />9. Ivins sent the anthrax letter to The National Enquirer, which was owned by the same company as The Sun. And he apparently liked reading those kinds of tabloids.<br /><br />So, the question is: Did Ivins mention "The Cell" in any of his emails? If he did, an hypothesis can be developed to suggest that Ivins sent the Jennifer Lopez letter to The Sun.<br /><br />If Ivins mentioned the movie "The Cell," it wouldn't be proof that he sent the J-Lo letter, but it would make a pretty good hypothesis. It would fit all the facts, and there would be no facts to say otherwise.<br /><br />Of course, it wouldn't prove that Ivins sent the anthrax letters, but it would prove that he sent the letter that a lot of people <b>believe</b> was the anthrax letter. (DXer rants endlessly about how he thinks it was sent by al Qaeda and contained al Qaeda codes.) <br /><br />It would show that Ivins really liked using the mails to do strange things. And, it would probably prove a few other things about how Ivins' mind worked, too.<br /><br />EdEd Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-66279606726275189272012-05-09T13:11:55.913-07:002012-05-09T13:11:55.913-07:00Okay, given what's above in this thread, this ...Okay, given what's above in this thread, this is a TAD off-topic (mea culpa!), but I'm intrigued: what does the movie THE CELL have to do with Amerithrax/the probability of Ivins' guilt/the price of tea in China? I didn't see THE CELL when it came out, but in recent years I've seen it a few times on CD and it never occurred to me that it was in any way related to Amerithrax (except for people being killed!). Am I missing something?!?r. rowleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-65976717440009226922012-05-09T12:53:27.772-07:002012-05-09T12:53:27.772-07:00Another ridiculous "rant" from Paul Kemp...Another ridiculous "rant" from Paul Kemp in the videos is the way he repeatedly stated how Ivins went to the grand jury room <b>without a lawyer</b>, and how that somehow shows his innocence. <br /><br />It does nothing of the kind. <b>You can't take a lawyer into the Grand Jury room.</b> So, Ivins would have had to pay Kemp or some other lawyer hundreds of dollars per hour just to sit on a bench in the hall outside - plus travel time.<br /><br />EdEd Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-10342508641040790872012-05-09T12:42:22.201-07:002012-05-09T12:42:22.201-07:00There are probably dozens of places on the Interne...There are probably dozens of places on the Internet where the process of deleting and restoring files is described. There's one <a href="http://www.easeus.com/datarecoverywizard/recover-deleted-files.htm" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>. It says:<br /><br /><b>"When a file is deleted from your computer, you just lose the file entry in My Computer. The file content still exists on the hard disk, Windows simply marks the hard drive space as being available for use so that you can write new files. If you manage to start an undelete process before Windows uses that part of the hard drive to write a new file, all you have to do is set that flag back to "on" and you get the file.<br /><br />Obviously, the sooner you try to restore a file, the more successful you'll be."</b> <br /><br />EdEd Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-6744095581402994072012-05-09T12:19:45.414-07:002012-05-09T12:19:45.414-07:00Anonymous wrote: "He explained that it typica...Anonymous wrote: <i>"He explained that it typically typically will never be overwritten because the space typically might never be needed."</i><br /><br />I was talking from experience. I worked for 20 years in the computer business, and there were occasions when someone accidentally deleted something they didn't want to delete, and they asked my help to get it back. So, I'd run the restore program to do that - and to see <b>IF</b> it was still there.<br /><br />All the delete program did was delete the entry in the index. And "restoring" would going through the actual files and put stuff back into the index.<br /><br />If they didn't free up the space, <b>everyone would be constantly running out of space.</b> Just think about how much your computer downloads when you merely look at the current news. Have you ever heard of <b>ANYONE</b> needing to take their computer into the "shop" to have their hard drive "cleaned up"? <br /><br /><i>"Do you have a citation for your claim that Terry Abshire destroyed the sample?"</i><br /><br />Terry Abshire was maintaining the FBIR inventory in Building 1412. Who else would have done it? <br /><br /><i>"That sample would have shown that the Ames she used to make dried powder was genetically identical to the Ames that was mailed."</i><br /><br />So what? The sample was sent to Abshire in February 2002. The letters were mailed in September and October 2001.<br /> <br /><i>"Perhaps you should link Attorney Kemp's audio so that people can see your inapt use of the term "ranting" and so that they can see the video themselves"</i><br /><br />There are links to the videos in my December 2, 2010 comment. I don't see any need to provide new links just because you brought up the subject again.<br /><br />EdEd Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-44572909020696668692012-05-09T10:50:39.761-07:002012-05-09T10:50:39.761-07:00Having watched 2 hour long videos on computer fore...Having watched 2 hour long videos on computer forensics this past week -- to include the one by the contractor the DOJ uses -- I believe you are mistaken. (One of the computer people speaking had been former FBI in San Francisco; he testifies as an expert frequently). He explained that it typically typically will never be overwritten because the space typically might never be needed. (I believe he said it goes to unallocated space). Might it someday be overwritten? Yes. But the FBI's expert explains is a fallacy that when deleted it is deleted -- it merely is no long visible to the usual user. That's why computer forensics is such an important tool for the FBI. It is especially important tool in looking for pornography of underage girls. The point is a trap for the unwary who think the child pornography has been deleted when it wasn't. Here, computer forensics showed that he had done nothing to destroy evidence. And no evidence implicating in any way in the anthrax mailings was in fact found.<br /><br />Do you have a citation for your claim that Terry Abshire destroyed the sample? No? And putting aside who destroyed, do you have a source for when it was destroyed? No? Terry Abshire is the one who made a dried powder out of virulent Ames that was genetically matching. She was the one who told the FBI she kept the genetically matching virulent Ames in a tupperware tub in the unlocked refrigerator. She is the one who in one interview told the FBI that she didn't know how she had come to have the Ames. But I am looking for your authority for the claim that she threw out Dr. Ivins. That sample would have shown that the Ames she used to make dried powder was genetically identical to the Ames that was mailed.<br /><br />Perhaps you should link Attorney Kemp's audio so that people can see your inapt use of the term "ranting" and so that they can see the video themselves of the attorney who is familiar with the facts of the November 2007 meeting with the FBI. If she threw it out, then GAO would apply a standard conflict of analysis. Its investigators are expert in how such conflict of interest rules apply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-66131844371386804782012-05-09T08:07:41.023-07:002012-05-09T08:07:41.023-07:00Anonymous wrote: "yesterday I uploaded upload...Anonymous wrote: "<i>yesterday I uploaded uploaded Attorney Paul Kemp's presentation about his meetings with the FBI at which Dr. Ivins presented his lab work relating to the hours of their interest. Judging from your post, you are unfamiliar with what Attorney Kemp explained.</i>"<br /><br />I've watched the Kemp presentation. I commented on it at length in the December 5, 2010 (A) comment on my web site.<br /><br />Mostly it's a distortion of the facts. Some of it is just plain wrong. It's a defense lawyer's pathetic attempt to try to raise "reasonable doubt" in the mind of the jury (or in this case, the public).<br /><br />Kemp states that if you delete something on your computer it actually remains there forever unless you take it somewhere to have it erased or unless you reformat your hard drive. That's nonsense. It remains there only until the space is re-used, which could be five minutes after you deleted the material.<br /><br />He keeps ranting about <b>the FBI</b> losing or accidentally destroying the February sample that Ivins submitted. That's total nonsense. Terry Abshire held onto the February sample until it was replaced by the April sample. Then she destroyed the February sample because it was no longer needed.<br /><br />Kemp keeps ranting about how Ivins wouldn't have submitted a real sample from flask RMR-1029 in February if he was guilty. That's nonsense. In February, Ivins had no idea what the FBI was looking for, and the spores he put into the letters didn't come <b>directly</b> from flask RMR-1029 anyway, so there was no reason for Ivins to think that spores from RMR-1029 could prove anything.<br /><br />Everything that Kemp says is either a misunderstanding of the facts or a misrepresentation of the facts. It could all be shot down item by item in court.Ed Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-26996663122591810662012-05-09T04:58:00.699-07:002012-05-09T04:58:00.699-07:00Ha! Does Ed Lake even know how many desks there w...Ha! Does Ed Lake even know how many desks there were in the B3 with the 52 rabbits?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-86277520817825105342012-05-09T04:05:19.029-07:002012-05-09T04:05:19.029-07:00To the contrary, yesterday I uploaded uploaded Att...To the contrary, yesterday I uploaded uploaded Attorney Paul Kemp's presentation about his meetings with the FBI at which Dr. Ivins presented his lab work relating to the hours of their interest. Judging from your post, you are unfamiliar with what Attorney Kemp explained. I've also uploaded the actual underlying documents obtained over the course of two years under FOIA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-64682767494506450242012-05-08T14:08:08.661-07:002012-05-08T14:08:08.661-07:00Hmmm. I'm working on the "Notes & Re...Hmmm. I'm working on the "Notes & References" section of my book, and adding the footnote numbers to the text.<br /><br />I just added footnote #8 to chapter 28. It relates to a statement by Ivins from <a href="http://foia2.fbi.gov/amerithrax/847443.PDF" rel="nofollow">FBI pdf file #847443</a>, page 35 which says:<br /><br /><i>"IVINS obtained a copy of the request form he submitted for a government vehicle to travel to Covance in Denver, Pennsylvania in the fall of 2001. He had also assembled some documents with information about the Dugway spore inventory and <b>what he was working on in the fall of 2001, which was mostly "desk work."</b></i><br /><br />So, Anonymous, there's another FOIA request chore for you. Ivins said he was doing mostly "desk work" at the time you claim he was busy testing and caring for rabbits. Ivins appears to have presented the FBI with documents saying he wasn't busy at all at that time. Maybe you should obtain those documents. They may help cure you of at least one of your fantasies.<br /><br />EdEd Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-52411980488722641502012-05-08T07:58:37.665-07:002012-05-08T07:58:37.665-07:00Ed began by the conversation by saying he relies o...Ed began by the conversation by saying he relies on experts who know the FACTS. HA!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-34835088241359137322012-05-08T07:52:10.471-07:002012-05-08T07:52:10.471-07:00Anonymous,
I think the eleven messages you've...Anonymous,<br /><br />I think the eleven messages you've just posted (12 including the email you sent me) say more about you than about Judith McLean.<br /><br />You've certainly made it clear that you cannot discuss any subject intelligently.<br /><br />I'll be deleting all further comments from you that relate to Judith McLean. You've made your opinions clear.<br /><br />EdEd Lakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00517078636884309733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-32347964100379905372012-05-08T07:34:27.740-07:002012-05-08T07:34:27.740-07:00In describing her work as medium, she reports that...In describing her work as medium, she reports that “I have visitations from countless Jews in my meditation. At first they came one or two at a time and later in large groups. This occurred in the year when the National Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C. was about to open. Most of these spirits indicated that they had died in the pogroms and concentration camps of World War II.”<br /><br />She says that one family that visited her (in her work as a medium) asked her to take a white rose to the museum — and she obliged.<br /><br />She says that in her work as a medium, some of the spirits are cranky — particularly the Taliban.<br /><br />David Willman’s key witness (see his featuring of her claims in his lead articles written for major media outlets): “As my mediumistic skills grew through researching genealogy and spirit releasing work, I realized deceased spirits are like humans. Some are wonderful and loving, and others are cranky oar “mean spirited. … While I had a few encounters with negative spirits, particularly with the Taliban after September 11th, they have been very few and far between.”<br /><br /><br /><br />On a trip to Egypt, David Willman’s and Ed Lake's featured witness was psychically attacked in the catacombs of Alexandria:<br /><br />“In the catacombs of Alexandria, I felt a dreaded sense of evil and was psychically attacked. I quickly left the catacombs with a couple of others who helped me to spiritually ward off these entities. The rest of the group remained in the catacombs. Following that excision, many of the group members became ill. I was able to clairvoyantly see attached entities, astral forms and debris, thoughtforms, and etherics poisons in their fields.”<br /><br /><br />She describes her visions and personal experience with mediumship:<br /><br />“My own experience with visions is long and varied… Psychic visions and skills have at times led me into delusional realms of information, so learning discernment has been a primary goal. Its importance cannot be underestimated.”<br /><br /><br /><br />Amerithrax represents the greatest intelligence failure in the history of the United States and that is because proponents of an Ivins Theory are not correcting their mistakes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7831518087498541513.post-52367888405658653632012-05-08T07:33:19.581-07:002012-05-08T07:33:19.581-07:00In her 2009 book, Dr. Ivins’ first therapist descr...In her 2009 book, Dr. Ivins’ first therapist describes that the next day when she returned to those stone fields in France:<br /><br />“The first thing I noticed was the stones were singing. My husband was unaware of the occurrence, but humored me. …… Upon entering one field, the rocks asked me to help a large group of them move their consciousness out of the stones so they could advance in evolutionary growth and experience something else. …Dreams and melodies from these stones often floated through my sleeping and waking states in the months that followed my visit.”<br /><br /><br /><br />In her 2009 book, Dr. Ivins’ first therapist — relied upon extensively by David Willman in his new book on Amerithrax and also relied upon by the FBI investigators and prosecutors in closing the case — describes that she also communicates with bushes and sees fairies.<br /><br />“Vegetable Kingdom Within the Physical Dimension”<br /><br />“On several occasions I had dreams about bushes around the yard that were not doing well and petition me for help. .. soon realized that plants also react with fear when pruned or cut for flood, which can be seen in their aura. .. All of the creatures from fairy tales seemed to have a very real existence once I became in tune with the vegetable kingdom. The most outstanding visual experience of these devas came in Ireland where these beings are not consigned only to the realm of fantasy. It is common to see huge communities of tiny intelligences with etheric wings and human-type features that I recognized as fairies.”<br /><br />–<br /><br />Her cats also astral travel and accompany her when she is out of town. “Currently when I travel, I often experience my three cats astral traveling and visiting me at night.”<br /><br />Perhaps tomorrow David Willman could do a joint interview with his key witness. Today he wrote an article in the Washington Post in which he emphasized the importance of vetting for mental stability.<br /><br />David relies on the Reverend JM as the key witness at pages 62, 63, 64, 65-66, 68, 293, 312, 313, 353, and 375n.<br /><br />What vetting did he do? Did he use google? (All of this is ascertainable from google within a couple of minutes.) Is he suggesting his FBI investigator contacts were not aware of this background? Lawrence Alexander developed his sorority theory using google and so surely he knows. Does he? Someone should ask. He's too busy to correct the record on a matter this important? Why?<br /><br /><br /><br />She explains the toll that these psychic abilities brought to her health:<br /><br />“During the first years following that episode [where she was talking in tongues and the bishop told her husband to get her psychiatric help], I was extremely sensitive to light, sound, and environmental factors. I became allergic to most anything that is breathed and eaten. Those were trying times of mystical depression and alternating ecstasies.”<br /><br />At the massage parlor near her home, Judith McLean says the spirits were opening up the bathroom doors at inopportune times.<br /><br />She says that spirits may find it hard to move on because of their addictions. For example, someone addicted to drinking might hang out at bars.<br /><br />She says that spirits are very fascinating but if you get too interested in their lives and time, they might be less interested in moving on. You can pick up bacteria from a spirit. She says she wasn’t a natural medium until her 1980 talking-in-tongues experience.<br /><br />She had to throw her books on being a medium into the garbage because she was attracting too many spirits.<br /><br />David Willman’s witness describes that being a medium can pose health problems:<br /><br />“Mediums are also often subjected to health problems. When they merge their essence with that of another, they can easily bring back negativity in a variety of forms. Some forms of negativity are mental and astral viruses, confusion, agitation and untruths.<br />…<br /><br />“”There are many reports of long term immune system problems, nervous system impairment, and psychological illness resulting from mediumship.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com